My first encounter with Dave, Prof. Anstee: ISBT 1998, the impressive setting of the Oslo City Hall: Bill Flegel and Franz Wagner presented that day about weak D. There was quite a bit of skepticism, but not in Dave's mind. I was lucky enough to be allowed in the discussion between Bill, Franz, Geoff and Dave. The best boost for my passion for IH, I ever experienced. Thanks Dave. Paul A